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Heidi Fleiss: The former Hollywood Madam discusses her life and her new book
(Court TV)
Court TV Host: Heidi Fleiss was just on Catherine Crier's
show...and now she's here with us now! Welcome, Heidi Fleiss. Thank you for
being our guest online today! Court TV Host: Anything you didn't get a chance to say on air that
you'd like to start by discussing now? Heidi Fleiss: I think we covered it, but I'd just like to say that
the best possible Christmas gift is my book, Pandering, and you can get an
autographed at my brand new store, Hollywood Madam, on Hollywood
Boulevard. Question from Ynot: What's Heidi been up to
lately? Heidi Fleiss: I've been working so hard on opening up my new
store, because it's a really cool store. Tomorrow, we're setting up web
cameras in the store so you'll be able to see it online...for free. Just go
to www.heidifleiss.com -- we're setting
up for cameras tomorrow, and in the next week or so, we'll start having
scheduled events, like book-signings, and playmates who come and sign their
calendars. It's a very good venue. It's also nice for tourists to come to
Hollywood and see something beautiful, not just panhandlers and vagabonds,
and things of that nature. Question from Desertdog: Heidi how much pressure
was put on you to give names and lurid stories about your clientele when you
were prosecuted? Did they offer you any deal?? Heidi Fleiss: I was offered anything and everything in terms of
deals, and it's something I would never consider. It wasn't my job to tell
or I would have worked for the National Enquirer. And besides, whoever you
think in Hollywood is doing it, is doing it... and much weirder than you
think. With my reputation -- people say I'm a hooker, or I'll do anything
for money -- there's no amount of money that will make me talk about my
past. So there is some integrity in me. People hate that. Question from erinlin: Heidi, do you feel the
prison time you had to serve was directly involved with the fact that you
would not give up names for scandal? Heidi Fleiss: I think that the prison time -- when I got out of
prison, I saw on ABC, on TV, how to meet and marry a millionaire -- and I
thought, "I went to jail for that." I cornered the market in basically what
was a boy's club -- they didn't like that -- and I paid a heavy price for
it. Question from Akeakamai: What is your book
about? Heidi Fleiss: My book, Pandering, is my proudest accomplishment of
my entire life, and I truly believe that in a few years they will teach a
college course on that book because that book addresses things that all of
us go through in life. Besides it being about my life and explaining how I
wound up in the sex business and the lessons I learned, the book deals with
love, hate, jealousy, revenge, rejection, Hollywood, age...everything and
every emotion that we all go through in life is addressed in some manner in
that book. Question from OldHippy: Hi Heidi, do you miss the
excitement and glamour of the past? Heidi Fleiss: People don't realize that being a madam is hard
work, and I was working all the time, and I was worn out from working, and I
remember one night, I was out and a beautiful girl came up to me, and asked,
who's answering your phone, and I thought, "Oh my god, I've got to go home
and answer the phone -- because these girls need work." Question from erinlin: Good point, Heidi. I think
the price you paid was much too high, and it was a witch hunt. Heidi Fleiss: I did serve a little over three years in a federal
penitentiary, and if I served six months, the government would have served
the same goal it had. I'm out of the business, I'm never going to go back in
the business, I never want to go back to the penitentiary. And in the end,
they got all the money. Question from FiveGoldenJERRYS: Heidi. Happy
Holiday. Do you support a federal law that would legalize prostitution? Heidi Fleiss: I don't recommend prostitution as a career, but if
someone wants to do it, let them do it. But let them do it in a safe
environment. I think it's wrong that it's illegal everywhere except in
Nevada, but at the same time it's the women who are the only one who are
persecuted, prosecuted -- they're the ones who suffer. The men are
protected, coddled, patted on the back -- they even brag about committing a
crime. In Australia, I'm a part of the Daily Planet; it's the first brothel
in the history of time that's on the stock exchange, the Australian stock
exchange. It's very strict, they don't have Enron, and Tyson, but they don't
have the same kinds of white collar crimes that pop up with insider trading,
and junk bonds. So to have a brothel on the stock exchange, they must be
doing something right. The women are safe, it's clean, regulated, the
government makes money, everyone's happy. No one is forced. I think the laws
on prostitution are archaic. Especially in regards to pornography -- if a
camera's there, it's okay. I think if the U.S. decriminalized and regulated
it, then everyone would benefit. By making it illegal, this is where
murders, and drugs, and nefarious activity comes in. That's why the women
always suffer. Except in Nevada, the Cherry Patch, where they really enforce
laws against drugs, and encourage a safe and clean environment. And they
have Christmas Specials, too, or something. If the White House calls me to
be the head of legalizing prostitution, I'd be up for it, because men have
no place in the sex business -- except paying for it! Question from emcas: Did your fame have any
advantages/disadvantages when you were incarcerated? Heidi Fleiss: There's no benefit to being famous. It's definitely
the wrong kind of fame I have, except for Nicole Kidman wanting to play me
in a movie filmed by Paramount. Question from BCingU: What has happened to the
women you worked with? Do you keep in touch with some of them? Heidi Fleiss: No, and the women who do say they worked for me,
most likely they didn't. Most of the women who worked for me did extremely
well. There are a few millionaires, and even a few marriages. Who in their
right mind is going to go around on television and elsewhere saying, "I was
a Heidi Fleiss prostitute?" Question from Ynot: Are you ok after being
battered so badly? Any permanent damage? Heidi Fleiss: No, I'm just kind of mad at myself for getting
involved in the whole thing, but hindsight is 20/20. It was very difficult
for me to file those charges. Because of my past, I knew it wasn't an even
playing field, and when it was over the DA got the conviction, they gave a
grand speech that they would prosecute domestic violence at all levels, for
rich or poor. But that's not true. I had to fight every step of the way for
them to prosecute. And at the end, everyone came out with a victory speech,
including Mr. Sizemore -- he gave a speech as if he won an Academy Award --
everyone gave a speech except for me. Question from BingleJells: What lessons have you
learned? Heidi Fleiss: Enough to make me 500 years old. Ultimately, in the
end, you have to take responsibility for everything. You can't blame it on
your childhood, you can't blame it on drugs, you can't blame it on your
friends, or a divorce. You have to take full responsibility and
accountability for your own actions. I hear lots of people say, as an
excuse, they were on drugs. I've done drugs, but I never hurt anybody, I
never done anything that hurt anyone, or stole. Everyone has a tale of
woe. Question from Ynot: You're one tough cookie,
Heidi Heidi Fleiss: I may look that way, but trust me, my heart is on my
sleeve. Question from wingit: What exactly does your
store sell anyway? Question from debbie: What can you buy in your
new store? Heidi Fleiss: Lingerie, sexy sweatpants, comfort clothing for both
men and women. And, of course, my book "Pandering." And I have other books
coming out this summer, too. Court TV Host: What are they? One is called The Beverly Hills
Tutor, which two studios are interested in (with an A-list actress). It's a
true story about this really adorable girl, she's in a sorority house, she
goes to UCLA, she wants to make some money so she gets an after-school job
tutoring children. And basically, she's thrust into this high-class world of
prostitution, offered six figures to take tests for children. It reads
better than any Jackie Collins novel -- and it's all true. And then the
other book I have coming out is called "The Player's Handbook," and it's the
ultimate guide to dating and relationships for women. Men should read it too
-- they can probably benefit the most. Court TV Host: Any closing thoughts? Heidi Fleiss: It's been great talking to you -- thanks for your
questions -- and get "Pandering" for Christmas!
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